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Keeping creationism out of schools in Scoland

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Alan H
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Re: Keeping creationism out of schools in Scoland

#21 Postby Alan H » February 4th, 2015, 11:39 am

Latest post of the previous page:

Slightly off topic, but: Noah's Ark park officials plan to sue Kentucky
The group seeking to build a Noah's Ark theme park in Kentucky said Tuesday it will file a federal discrimination lawsuit against the state for rejecting its application for tax incentives to help finance the park.

Tourism officials in December denied tax incentives worth roughly $18 million for the Ark Encounter — a biblical theme park to include a 510-foot-long wooden ship — over concerns that it had evolved from a tourist attraction to an effort to advance a religion and that developers planned to discriminate in hiring based on religion.
Alan Henness

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Re: Keeping creationism out of schools in Scoland

#22 Postby Altfish » February 4th, 2015, 7:51 pm

I fail to see what grounds Ham has to sue. Unless I've been sold a pile of bad information by the secular website I frequent.
As I understand it, they were promised grants on the understanding that it was an educational attraction, not a religious one. Then, Ham and his mates, started placing job adverts that specified faith requirements.
Thus - no grants available for religious attractions...end of.

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Re: Keeping creationism out of schools in Scoland

#23 Postby Alan H » May 28th, 2015, 8:08 pm

Creationism blocked in Scottish science classes
The Scottish education minister has stated that creationism should not be taught in science classes in publicly-funded Scottish schools.

Alasdair Allan, Minister for Learning, Science and Scotland's Languages, said that creationism is not a "scientific principle" and "it should therefore not be taught as part of science lessons."

The announcement came after a statement by the Holyrood Parliament, following a petition and campaign by the Scottish Secular Society urging the Scottish Government to tackle the issue, after cases emerged of Christian fundamentalists handing out creationist literature in schools.

NSS spokesperson for Scotland Alastair McBay commented: "Scottish secularists have done a superb job in tackling this issue in the face of predictable opposition from religious interests. The degree of infiltration in Scotland's schools, particularly non-denominational ones, by Christian fundamentalists, means that we must all remain vigilant as these people take no notice of Government edicts and will continue to teach such nonsense under a flag of freedom of religious expression. Creationist beliefs may be a topic for religious education classes, but they have no place in the science classroom."

The Scottish Secular Society's petition had called on the Scottish Parliament to "urge the Scottish Government to issue official guidance to bar the presentation in Scottish publicly funded schools of separate creation and of Young Earth doctrines as viable alternatives to the established science of evolution, common descent, and deep time."

The Scottish Government had previously not explicitly stated that the teaching of creationism as a valid scientific theory was prohibited, but has now done so.

The Moderator of the Free Church of Scotland said that the debate was "an extraordinary waste of parliamentary time."

In January 2015, a motion was put forward by two MSPs which called for Scottish children to be made "aware" of creationist teaching. One of the supporters of the motion, John Mason MSP, tweeted: "I think science is better sticking to what exists. How and why things came about is probably better not included in science."

In England, the Department for Education has previously stated that teaching creationism as scientific fact is "wrong" and that schools are not permitted to teach creationism instead of valid and thoroughly evidenced scientific theories.
The DfE says it will not accept any academy or free school proposal which plans to teach creationism in the science curriculum.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?


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