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2016 US election

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Alan H
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Re: 2016 US election

#201 Postby Alan H » January 13th, 2017, 1:43 pm

Latest post of the previous page:

1. A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers.
2. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead.
3. A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he asked for his health insurance, and the man had none, so the priest did move on.
4. A Levite came to the place and saw him, and tried to sell him health insurance, but the mans injuries were not covered for they were a pre-existing condition.
5. A Pharisee came to the place and found a policy but the man could not afford it for the premiums were too high.
6. A Samaritan, or as it may be a a Muslim, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him.
7. He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him.
8. And Barack asked: “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”
9. The next day he made a law to help the man.
10. And the Republicans did cry as one: "COMMUNIST!"
11. And Donald did say: Barack's law is an evil law, I shall repeal it
12. And I shall replace it with something that shall be great
13. And the people did ask: What is the thing that is great with which you will replace Barack's law?
14. And Donald did say: It will be great, the best
15. And the people did say: But what will it look like?
16. And Donald did wave his arms and shoot out his lips and did not say
17. And so it came to pass that Donald did replace Barack in the white palace
18. And the Trumpites did tear up the law of Barack
19. And the priests and the Levites and the Pharisees dd continue to walk past the sick and ther fallen
20. And the Trumpites did blame the Ombamites.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#202 Postby Alan H » January 21st, 2017, 11:07 am

Dan Rather Just Went Viral Shredding Trump’s Inauguration Speech
The speech started with a message of an establishment in Washington earning riches on the back of struggling families across the country. It was an odd note, considering the background of many of his cabinet picks. President Trump painted a very dark picture of the current state of our nation, beset by gangs and drugs and violence, regardless of what the data shows. His words swelled with his economic populism and the nationalism of “America first.” The applause was sparse, and I imagine many more being turned off, even sickened, rather than inspired by what our new President had to say. President Obama looked on with an opaque poker face. One could only imagine what he was thinking.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#203 Postby Ken H » January 22nd, 2017, 8:11 pm

White House press secretary Sean Spicer held a press briefing Saturday night. Except not really. Spicer delivered a statement blasting the media for allegedly underestimating the size of the crowds for President Trump's inaugural ceremony.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... ole-truth/

Instead of saying something about how his administration will help America, he starts out his first day in office by blasting the press over his ego. Four years of this will be hard to take!

I think the ant-Trump demonstrations today in Washington had a bigger turnout than the inauguration!

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Re: 2016 US election

#204 Postby Alan H » January 22nd, 2017, 8:57 pm

We have to be careful about comparisons when we cannot be absolutely sure about exactly when they were taken. However, there was a timelapse that was doing the rounds that seemed to show the place was never full at any point in the say.

Sean Spicer muttered something about the flooring over the grass to protect it being white and making it difficult to see. It wasn't long before someone had the explanation...

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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#205 Postby Ken H » January 23rd, 2017, 12:18 am

Yes, I see what you mean! :D
The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...' - Isaac Asimov

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Re: 2016 US election

#206 Postby Nick » January 23rd, 2017, 2:39 pm

On the other hand, however....





But I still think Trump is an appalling choice!!

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Re: 2016 US election

#207 Postby Alan H » January 23rd, 2017, 7:56 pm

Mexico City Policy: Donald Trump reinstates global abortion funding ban
Activists have condemned as an “assault on women's health”, a decision by Donald Trump to block US funding for health clinics around the world that provide abortion services.

One of the three executive orders Mr Trump signed on his first Monday morning as president, was to reinstate the so-called Mexico City Policy, a rule originally introduced by Ronald Reagan.

The rule, which was revoked by Barack Obama, forces NGOs to agree to “neither perform nor actively promote abortion as a method of family planning in other nations” as a prerequisite for federal funds.

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Trump's 3rd executive order today is assault on women's health. "Mexico City policy" strips US support from health clinics around the globe
4:57 PM - 23 Jan 2017


Activists say the rule threatens to block access to safe abortions for countless thousands of women in the developing world. Campaigners had said ahead of Mr Trump’s inauguration, they feared he would reintroduce the policy as a gift to Vice President Mike Pence, known for his staunch opposition to abortion rights.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#208 Postby Alan H » January 25th, 2017, 4:53 pm

Oh! This IS good! :hilarity:

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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#209 Postby animist » January 26th, 2017, 10:24 am

the last post was hilarious! Anyway (or anyways, as in the US?), this is an offbeat look at Big Don's plans for the Wall:
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/23/polit ... ies-texas/

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Re: 2016 US election

#210 Postby Alan H » January 29th, 2017, 12:11 am

Quite extraordinary scenes at JFK airport this evening - live video here.

And the same at many other US airports.

The money to the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union) seems to be pouring in after they filed a suit against Trump, claiming the ban on those from the countries be named was illegal. Even Canadians who hold dual citizenship with the likes of Somalia are covered by Trump's ban.

We're all still waiting for Trump's hand-holding bestest friend, Theresa May, to condemn him for what he has done, of course.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#211 Postby Alan H » January 29th, 2017, 12:26 am

Alan H wrote:We're all still waiting for Trump's hand-holding bestest friend, Theresa May, to condemn him for what he has done, of course.

Wait! News from PA:
#BREAKING Theresa May does "not agree" with Donald Trump's refugee ban and will make representations if it hits Britons, Downing Street said
Eight hours late, mind you, and 'not agreeing' is hardly the same as condemning this vile man's vile actions.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#212 Postby Alan H » January 29th, 2017, 9:45 am

Donald Trump Muslim deportations stayed by federal judge
A federal judge in New York has ordered a stay on Donald Trump's deportation order for people who have arrived in the US with valid visas from seven Muslim-majority nations.

As thousands of people joined demonstrations at airports across America to protest over Mr Trump’s immigration ban on Muslims, a judge ordered the stay and lawyers said the President’s actions were unconstitutional.

While customs officers appeared to be complying with the court order, the Department of Homeland Security issued a statement saying the President's decree would "remain in place" and the department would "continue to enforce" them.

"Prohibited travel will remain prohibited, and the US government retains its right to revoke visas at any time if required for national security or public safety," the statement said.

Earlier, federal judge Ann Donnelly told a Brooklyn courtroom: "I think the government hasn’t had a full chance to think about this.”

She ordered the government to provide a list of names for people affected.
Hopefully, this will not end well for Trump.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#213 Postby Alan H » January 29th, 2017, 9:54 am

Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#214 Postby animist » January 29th, 2017, 10:46 am

I wonder if Trump's business empire - hotels etc - will be a problem for him as time goes on; they must be quite vulnerable to picketing, or worse, by protesters

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Re: 2016 US election

#215 Postby Alan H » January 29th, 2017, 1:34 pm

animist wrote:
I wonder if Trump's business empire - hotels etc - will be a problem for him as time goes on; they must be quite vulnerable to picketing, or worse, by protesters
Hopefully.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#216 Postby Alan H » January 30th, 2017, 11:35 pm

Holy fuck. This is Trump's first week. Just his first week.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#217 Postby Alan H » February 3rd, 2017, 12:46 am

Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#218 Postby Alan H » February 3rd, 2017, 4:43 pm

Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#219 Postby Alan H » February 7th, 2017, 12:29 am

Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#220 Postby Alan H » February 22nd, 2017, 12:27 am

The media. Doing their job: 100 days of Trump claims
Throughout President Trump’s first 100 days, the Fact Checker team will be tracking false and misleading claims made by the president since Jan. 20.

In the 33 days so far, we’ve counted 132 false or misleading claims.
No days without a claim

Out of the 33 days tracked since Trump’s inauguration, there have been no days without any recorded false or misleading claims.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#221 Postby Alan H » March 2nd, 2017, 9:49 pm

Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?


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