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#161 Postby coffee » March 10th, 2018, 2:21 am

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Brexit WALKOUT: No deal on the cards as UK ministers left fed up with stubborn EUMINISTERS are gearing up for a walkout from Brexit talks if Brussels continues to play hardball. A senior cabinet source has revealed that plans for scenarios including no deal and the EU refusing to let Britain rejoin its agencies are more advanced than many people realise.

By DAVID MADDOX - EXCLUSIVE

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... est-update

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#162 Postby Alan H » March 10th, 2018, 11:01 am

coffee wrote:Brexit WALKOUT: No deal on the cards as UK ministers left fed up with stubborn EUMINISTERS are gearing up for a walkout from Brexit talks if Brussels continues to play hardball. A senior cabinet source has revealed that plans for scenarios including no deal and the EU refusing to let Britain rejoin its agencies are more advanced than many people realise.

By DAVID MADDOX - EXCLUSIVE

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... est-update
:hilarity: :pointlaugh: :laughter:
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#163 Postby Alan H » March 10th, 2018, 11:43 am

coffee wrote:Brexit WALKOUT: No deal on the cards as UK ministers left fed up with stubborn EUMINISTERS are gearing up for a walkout from Brexit talks if Brussels continues to play hardball. A senior cabinet source has revealed that plans for scenarios including no deal and the EU refusing to let Britain rejoin its agencies are more advanced than many people realise.

By DAVID MADDOX - EXCLUSIVE

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... est-update
Coffee: how do you think that compares with this article?
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#164 Postby animist » March 10th, 2018, 12:01 pm

Alan H wrote:
coffee wrote:Brexit WALKOUT: No deal on the cards as UK ministers left fed up with stubborn EUMINISTERS are gearing up for a walkout from Brexit talks if Brussels continues to play hardball. A senior cabinet source has revealed that plans for scenarios including no deal and the EU refusing to let Britain rejoin its agencies are more advanced than many people realise.

By DAVID MADDOX - EXCLUSIVE

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... est-update
Coffee: how do you think that compares with this article?

that is amazing and scary, Alan - I was just about to post this myself. Coffee. PLEASE do us the courtesy of reading what we post, since we do read what you post :smile:

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#165 Postby Alan H » March 10th, 2018, 12:22 pm

animist wrote:
Alan H wrote:
coffee wrote:Brexit WALKOUT: No deal on the cards as UK ministers left fed up with stubborn EUMINISTERS are gearing up for a walkout from Brexit talks if Brussels continues to play hardball. A senior cabinet source has revealed that plans for scenarios including no deal and the EU refusing to let Britain rejoin its agencies are more advanced than many people realise.

By DAVID MADDOX - EXCLUSIVE

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... est-update
Coffee: how do you think that compares with this article?

that is amazing and scary, Alan - I was just about to post this myself. Coffee. PLEASE do us the courtesy of reading what we post, since we do read what you post :smile:
It's that Project Fear that Brexiters insisted was a load of utter nonsense turning into Project Reality.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#166 Postby coffee » March 10th, 2018, 5:39 pm

Between Brexit, Italy and Germany, the EU's reforms are under threat

Pressure to reform the EU and deepen ties among the soon-to-be 27 member states mounted in 2016.

http://www.thejournal.ie/eu-reforms-are ... 5-Mar2018/

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'A HUGE opportunity!' Caller claims UK will have 'high quality' cheaper food post-Brexit

A RADIO caller has outlined the huge “opportunity” the UK has to import cheaper food once Britain has cut ties with the European Union.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/92992 ... pean-Union

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#167 Postby coffee » March 11th, 2018, 3:35 pm

EU migrants in Britain claimed more than £4bn a year in benefits

Those from Eastern Europe received more in welfare than the average UK citizen — and paid less income tax. In the run-up to the Brexit referendum, ministers had insisted the figures were not available. But the cost of open doors migration has now been revealed. Data from the Department for Work and Pensions, taxman and Treasury shows EU workers received more than £2.2billion in tax credits and housing benefits, £1.1billion in out-of-work payments and £700million in child benefit. There is a stark contrast between Western and Eastern Europeans. Nearly half the personal taxes paid by migrants from countries such as Romania, Bulgaria and Poland went straight back in tax credits and child benefit. DWP figures were not broken down by country. But if they followed a similar distribution, then almost all of the taxes went back in working-age benefit. - Sun on Sunday

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5776790/e ... in-a-year/

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THE SUN ON SUNDAY SAYS Use Brexit billions to make like Donald Trump and slash tax, Phil

We will prise £25billion free from the EU clutches, the Chancellor should unleash Trump-like tax cuts that make a REAL difference to ordinary people

By The Sun on Sunday

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5778207/b ... sh-uk-tax/

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UK GIN SALES FIZZ Sales of gin in Britain hit record high – sparking trade and jobs boom

More than 16 million bottles, worth £413 million, were sold in the run-up to Christmas – and off-licences are enjoying a mini-bonanza for Mother’s Day.

By David Wooding

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5777314/g ... n-britain/

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Mark Wallace: Even fans of the EU are getting fed up of its bullying approach to the Brexit talks

Leavers and Remainers have a variety of points of disagreement, to state the obvious. Given the often deep and sometimes rancorous divisions which still linger in some quarters, it’s always interesting to find out about areas where people with diametrically opposed views of the EU still agree to a sizeable extent. One such example is presented in today’s Sunday Telegraph, which carries the results of a poll tracking sentiment around the Brexit negotiations. Asked the question “do you agree the EU is trying to bully the UK in the Brexit negotiations”, 67 per cent either agreed or strongly agreed, overall. - Mark Wallace for ConservativeHome

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#168 Postby coffee » March 11th, 2018, 4:04 pm

Theresa May urged to take back control of Britain's waters to provide a '£4 billion' boost for UK's economy in Brexit 'acid test'

Government under pressure from Fishing For Leave to secure a good Brexit deal

The group has urged Theresa May to take UK out of Common Fisheries Policy

They claim it would provide a £4 billion boost to Britain's economy each year

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... aters.html

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LEGAL LOOPHOLE? Anti-Brexit campaigners prepare to take David Davis to COURT to force a second referendum

Best for Britain is trying to take ministers to court to demand a public vote on the final terms of our Brexit deal

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5779313/a ... eferendum/

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#169 Postby Alan H » March 11th, 2018, 4:24 pm

coffee wrote:EU migrants in Britain claimed more than £4bn a year in benefits

Those from Eastern Europe received more in welfare than the average UK citizen — and paid less income tax. In the run-up to the Brexit referendum, ministers had insisted the figures were not available. But the cost of open doors migration has now been revealed. Data from the Department for Work and Pensions, taxman and Treasury shows EU workers received more than £2.2billion in tax credits and housing benefits, £1.1billion in out-of-work payments and £700million in child benefit. There is a stark contrast between Western and Eastern Europeans. Nearly half the personal taxes paid by migrants from countries such as Romania, Bulgaria and Poland went straight back in tax credits and child benefit. DWP figures were not broken down by country. But if they followed a similar distribution, then almost all of the taxes went back in working-age benefit. - Sun on Sunday

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5776790/e ... in-a-year/


Not sure whether that deserves a 'Good Grief' or a :hilarity:
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#170 Postby animist » March 11th, 2018, 6:08 pm

Alan H wrote:
coffee wrote:EU migrants in Britain claimed more than £4bn a year in benefits

Those from Eastern Europe received more in welfare than the average UK citizen — and paid less income tax. In the run-up to the Brexit referendum, ministers had insisted the figures were not available. But the cost of open doors migration has now been revealed. Data from the Department for Work and Pensions, taxman and Treasury shows EU workers received more than £2.2billion in tax credits and housing benefits, £1.1billion in out-of-work payments and £700million in child benefit. There is a stark contrast between Western and Eastern Europeans. Nearly half the personal taxes paid by migrants from countries such as Romania, Bulgaria and Poland went straight back in tax credits and child benefit. DWP figures were not broken down by country. But if they followed a similar distribution, then almost all of the taxes went back in working-age benefit. - Sun on Sunday

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5776790/e ... in-a-year/


Not sure whether that deserves a 'Good Grief' or a :hilarity:
and earlier figures conflict with this

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#171 Postby coffee » March 11th, 2018, 8:40 pm

Good Guy? Is Verhofstadt SECRETLY smoothing things over for BEST possible Brexit?

Guy Verhofstadt was supposed to be the bad cop from Brussels during the Brexit negotiations - but he might have just emerged as Britain’s biggest ally in the talks.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/93012 ... erhofstadt

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#172 Postby Alan H » March 11th, 2018, 8:55 pm

coffee wrote:Good Guy? Is Verhofstadt SECRETLY smoothing things over for BEST possible Brexit?

Guy Verhofstadt was supposed to be the bad cop from Brussels during the Brexit negotiations - but he might have just emerged as Britain’s biggest ally in the talks.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/93012 ... erhofstadt
Any idea what the 'best possible Brexit' is?
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#173 Postby coffee » March 11th, 2018, 9:18 pm

Scottish Labour fends off commitment to EU single market

New leader Richard Leonard vows leftward shift amid Brexit feuding

Scottish Labour’s new leftwing leadership on Sunday fended off a push to commit to permanent UK membership of the EU single market amid Brexit feuding that overshadowed the party’s spring conference.

Party delegates backed an unusual “unity” statement after a warning against division from Richard Leonard, the new Scottish Labour leader, on Saturday.

https://www.ft.com/content/35558218-248 ... 62a39d57a0

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#174 Postby coffee » March 11th, 2018, 9:23 pm

Scottish Labour conference backs Corbyn on Brexit

Scottish Labour delegates have rejected a rebel motion calling for the UK to rejoin the single market and instead rallied behind Jeremy Corbyn’s pro-Brexit strategy.

The party’s conference in Dundee voted overwhelmingly for a “unity motion” drafted by its Scottish executive after deep divisions over Corbyn’s proposals emerged between the party’s centrists and the Labour leadership.

The vote, which endorsed Corbyn’s pledge to oppose Brexit if the deal failed to protect workers’ rights and included full access to the single market, came as John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor, pledged £70bn in extra spending for Scotland.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/s ... ar-BBK6iXy

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#175 Postby coffee » March 13th, 2018, 12:00 pm

BREXIT news: Splits emerge in European Parliament as Guy Verhofstadt goes AGAINST Tusk

GUY Verhofstadt has exposed splits in the European Parliament over the best way to tackle Brexit, after he proposed an ‘association agreement’ between the EU and the UK.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/93095 ... -agreement

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#176 Postby coffee » March 14th, 2018, 12:56 pm

Sharp rise in number of EU nationals applying for UK citizenship

The biggest increase has been from Spanish, French and German nationals

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... itizenship

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#177 Postby coffee » March 14th, 2018, 6:57 pm

Greek crisis veteran Varoufakis warns Barnier’s job is to make sure Brexit talks FAIL

FORMER Greek finance minister Yanis Varoufakis said that the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier has been placed in the role to ensure talks fail.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/93051 ... pean-Union

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#178 Postby coffee » March 15th, 2018, 11:14 am

UK will be able to negotiate and strike trade deals during transition

The EU is poised to back down over whether the UK can begin to negotiate and sign new trade deals during the transition period.

According to The Times, the UK will be able to act under its own steam from March 2019 without seeking permission for the European Union.

Although the formal negotiating guidelines still say the UK cannot implement trade deals “unless authorised to do so by the Union”, but the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier, is understood to have relaxed his position.

http://www.cityam.com/282321/uk-able-ne ... transition

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‘We voted to stop sending BILLIONS to EU!’ MEP demands Brits get the Brexit they VOTED FOR

A FURIOUS British MEP has hit out at plans for Britain to continue paying into the European Union until 2064 – insisting British people voted for Brexit to stop sending billions of pounds to the EU every year.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/93212 ... pean-Union

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#179 Postby Alan H » March 15th, 2018, 11:18 am

coffee wrote:‘We voted to stop sending BILLIONS to EU!’ MEP demands Brits get the Brexit they VOTED FOR

A FURIOUS British MEP has hit out at plans for Britain to continue paying into the European Union until 2064 – insisting British people voted for Brexit to stop sending billions of pounds to the EU every year.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/93212 ... pean-Union
:pointlaugh: What a shambles.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#180 Postby animist » March 15th, 2018, 11:57 am

Alan H wrote:
coffee wrote:‘We voted to stop sending BILLIONS to EU!’ MEP demands Brits get the Brexit they VOTED FOR

A FURIOUS British MEP has hit out at plans for Britain to continue paying into the European Union until 2064 – insisting British people voted for Brexit to stop sending billions of pounds to the EU every year.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/93212 ... pean-Union
:pointlaugh: What a shambles.
I assume that the distant year figure of 2064 was a sensible attempt to spread the load. Coffee, you should really get classier pro-Brexit stuff on this thread. I suggest Brexit Central, which seems to provide a daily digest of Brexit news which is supportive of the project while having some connection to reality

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#181 Postby Alan H » March 15th, 2018, 12:05 pm

animist wrote:I suggest Brexit Central, which seems to provide a daily digest of Brexit news which is supportive of the project while having some connection to reality
That must make it depressing reading for any Brexiter...
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?


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