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Alan H
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The future of AI...

#1 Postby Alan H » December 8th, 2017, 1:22 pm

Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
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Re: The future of AI...

#2 Postby Lord Muck oGentry » December 10th, 2017, 12:39 am



I'm not sure whether it's frightening or exciting, but it's certainly astonishing. Stockfish's Elo rating is 3391, and AlphaZero's rating on the strength of these results should, as I understand it, be about 100 points higher. To get it into context: a rating difference of 300 points predicts a score of 85% for the stronger player in a reasonably long series of games. A novice would be about 1000, a good beginner 1300-1400, a strong club player 1900, an expert or candidate master 2200, a grandmaster 2500. Only a few world champions and contenders have achieved ratings above 2800.
Stockfish towers over machines that tower over the strongest humans. And AlphaZero has just crushed Stockfish without the loss a of a single game.

Ummm... I find myself thinking of Iain M Banks' super-intelligent Ships, and hoping that this chess monster doesn't turn out to be a Torturer- class Rapid Offensive Unit.

OK, I'm frightened. :D
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Re: The future of AI...

#3 Postby Alan H » December 10th, 2017, 1:04 am

Lord Muck oGentry wrote:


I'm not sure whether it's frightening or exciting, but it's certainly astonishing. Stockfish's Elo rating is 3391, and AlphaZero's rating on the strength of these results should, as I understand it, be about 100 points higher. To get it into context: a rating difference of 300 points predicts a score of 85% for the stronger player in a reasonably long series of games. A novice would be about 1000, a good beginner 1300-1400, a strong club player 1900, an expert or candidate master 2200, a grandmaster 2500. Only a few world champions and contenders have achieved ratings above 2800.
Stockfish towers over machines that tower over the strongest humans. And AlphaZero has just crushed Stockfish without the loss a of a single game.

Ummm... I find myself thinking of Iain M Banks' super-intelligent Ships, and hoping that this chess monster doesn't turn out to be a Torturer- class Rapid Offensive Unit.

OK, I'm frightened. :D
I for one welcome our new Skynet Overlords...
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: The future of AI...

#4 Postby animist » December 10th, 2017, 11:30 am

maybe you should have titled this thread "The future of natural intelligence, if any"

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Re: The future of AI...

#5 Postby Alan H » December 10th, 2017, 3:42 pm

animist wrote:maybe you should have titled this thread "The future of natural intelligence, if any"
:laughter:
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: The future of AI...

#6 Postby Alan H » February 13th, 2018, 1:47 pm

Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?


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